When Gag Orders Become Campaign-Performance Indicators
Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts
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🗓️ 6 April 2024
⏱️ 44 minutes
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Summary
After weeks of the Trump trials (and the run-up to the Trump trials) becoming ever more engrossing spectator sports, both the public and the media may have lost sight of some of the stakes. They also may have lost sight of the truth of what the legal system can actually deliver in terms of protecting democracy from Donald J Trump.
On this week’s Amicus, Dahlia Lithwick is joined by Juliette Kayyem to dissect Trump's impact on legal, national security, and ideological fronts. Kayyem brings her national security expertise to discuss the evolution of Trump's tactics from stochastic terror to direct incitement. Together, they explore the implications for democracy of a presidential campaign where one candidate issues violent threats and tries to intimidate judges. Kayyem lays out in stark terms the kinds of focus and planning needed in the coming months.
Juliette Kayyem is a national security expert, Harvard lecturer, CNN analyst, Atlantic contributor, and author of 'The Devil Never Sleeps: Learning to Live in an Age of Disasters.' Avowedly not a lawyer, she approaches America’s political predicament using counter-terrorism approaches to Trump’s movement and preparations for the 2024 elections.
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| 0:00.0 | As a listener of amicus, you know that the Supreme Court is eroding the wall between |
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| 1:20.0 | The counter narrative cannot simply be, well the court will get him. |
| 1:22.0 | It's not going to work. It's not going to work |
| 1:24.0 | politically and it's not going to work legally we now know. |
| 1:28.6 | Hi and welcome to Amicus. This is Slate's podcast about the law and the rule of law and |
| 1:36.3 | the law of Donald Trump and the courts. I'm Dahlia Lithwick. I cover these topics at |
| 1:40.9 | Slate and we have somehow, I don't know how ambled our way right on |
| 1:45.6 | into April which will see the last argument weeks of this Supreme Court term. |
| 1:50.7 | This last few days has been a hodgepodge of Donald Trump bond stories, threats |
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