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The Business of Fashion Podcast

When Fashion Lost Its Voice

The Business of Fashion Podcast

The Business of Fashion

Fashion & Beauty, Business, Arts

4.6770 Ratings

🗓️ 17 June 2025

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

Earlier this month, cities across the US saw the most significant wave of demonstrations since the 2020 protests following George Floyd's murder. These latest protests have been sparked by immigration raids conducted by the Trump administration, and while some of those enforcement actions have targeted garment workers, the fashion industry has mostly stayed silent. 

Executive editor Brian Baskin, senior correspondent Sheena Butler-Young, and retail editor Cat Chen explore the reasons behind the industry's cautious stance, whether fashion can find a new way to engage with politics, and practical steps brands can take to support vulnerable workers.



Key Insights: 


  • During the Black Lives Matter movement, fashion brands were quick to voice support. Today, in the face of immigration raids affecting garment workers, many brands are noticeably quiet as companies now worry that taking a stance on divisive political issues could trigger backlash. “There's a lot of anxiety and discomfort and frustration behind the scenes, but there is also this other piece of the pie, which is fear of retaliation from the Trump administration,” says Chen. Despite the fear of retribution, Butler-Young also notes how the lack of response is being interpreted outside of the industry: “I think that people see the industry as acting cowardly as an industry that does rely on immigrant labor, legal and otherwise.” 


  • Fashion isn’t providing much concrete support behind the scenes, either. “I think another huge issue is that people are feeling really helpless in the sector. There aren't any resources,” says Chen. “We're not seeing trade organisations emerge and come up with guidelines for what employers can do in case of a raid.” She adds, “You have these executives who are operating very blindly.”


  • Brands that lean too heavily on public declarations of diversity and inclusion without backing them up are losing credibility with values-driven shoppers. As Butler-Young explains, “The liberal consumer is just a little bit over hearing companies say something and then not do it.” Instead of splashing their values across LinkedIn or homepage banners, she notes that “some of the brands that are doing a good job by doing the work internally first and then talking about it.” 


  • The focus should also shift from performative allyship to practical, on-the-ground support—ensuring that businesses are equipped to respond meaningfully when their workers are directly impacted by policies like immigration raids. As Chen points out, “The most vulnerable people right now don't need big brands to post something on social media or grand political gestures. What they need is a solution to the problem. What they need is for their employers to be prepared.” 


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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the debrief from The Business of Fashion, where each week we delve into our most popular BOF professional stories with the correspondents who created them.

0:16.9

I'm executive editor Brian Baskin, and I'm senior correspondent Sheena Butler Young.

0:22.5

This past weekend, thousands of protesters in dozens of cities across the U.S.

0:27.5

took to the streets to voice their displeasure with President Donald Trump.

0:31.4

The demonstrations were the largest since the days after the murder of George Floyd in the summer of 2020

0:36.7

and came on the heels of protests

0:38.7

in Los Angeles against the Trump administration's immigration rates. Five years ago, fashion and

0:44.3

beauty brands flooded social media with black squares and public pledges in support of Black Lives

0:49.2

Matter and similar organizations. Today, as protests erupt in Los Angeles over a government raid at a garment

0:55.3

factory and an industry that depends heavily on immigrant labor, that same chorus of corporate

1:00.8

solidarity has fallen mostly silent. Sheena, you've been writing about the intersection of fashion

1:06.2

and politics for a long time, and I have a ton of questions for you. But first, I'd like to welcome back

1:12.5

our retail editor, Kat Chen, who has been closely following the immigration protests. Kat, thank you

1:18.1

for joining us today. Hi, guys. Thank you for having me. Kat, tell us about the situation in

1:23.9

L.A. and fashion's connection to it. Yeah, so it's been more than a weeks-long ordeal of protest and unrest in Los Angeles.

1:37.6

The original catalyst took place on June 6th.

1:41.9

That was when ICE, Imm customs enforcement, federal agents,

1:47.1

rated a handful of workplaces in Los Angeles, including one garment warehouse called

1:55.3

Ambiance Apparel. And that's sort of what my coverage has focused on, this one particular garment warehouse,

2:03.1

and the reverberations that it has had on the greater apparel industry in Los Angeles.

2:10.6

Apparel is one of the largest industries in L.A., if not the largest.

2:15.2

There is an estimated 46,000 garment workers in the city of varying immigration

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