Good evening. Welcome to the John Gorn podcast. The big question tonight is a question for our

Prime Minister, Sarkir Stama. When did you know that this alleged killer of the three little

girls in Southport also allegedly had an Al-Qaeda textbook, effectively a terrorist handbook,

and also that there was the look

of potential ricin development that he was creating a biological stroke chemical weapon.

When did you know, Kirstama, and why didn't the British public get told?

That's what I want to talk about tonight.

I think it's vitally important that Sakeh Stama goes on TV tonight, or first thing in the morning,

and explains himself. We need to know about the timing of this. In this podcast, in no way

am I going to try and alter the trial. He deserves a fair trial under the British

justice system like anybody else. But why weren't the British public told about the ricin?

Why weren't they told about the Al-Qaeda textbook, so to speak a terrorist handbook, if those

things are true? He's now being charged

with that as well, with possession of that. I don't know whether it's true or not. We'll have to

wait to the trial. And the trial, of course, isn't going to be till after Christmas. And one of the

main reasons why Isaac Kirstama needs to talk to the British public to us, the people who pay his

wages, he was very,

very quick to condemn, and indeed jail, or rioters and protesters. Yes, people who threw bricks

at the police. Yes, people who vandalised hotels and tried to burn refugees, stroke asylum

seekers alive. They deserve the full force of the law down on him. But what about

the protesters? What about the situation? Lord Carl Isle, expert on terrorism. And the government's

own czar on terrorism said the government should have given more information and the police

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