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Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts

When Did Corporations Become People?

Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts

Slate Audio

News Commentary,, Government, News

4.63.4K Ratings

🗓️ 3 March 2018

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

On this week’s show, Dahlia Lithwick is joined by UCLA Law Professor Adam Winkler to talk about his new book We the Corporations: How American Businesses Won Their Civil Rights. Together, they also examine what the constitutionalizing of corporate rights can tell us about the current gun debate. And Dahlia steps inside the chamber for oral arguments in the hugely significant public sector union case we previewed last show. She is joined by the Solicitor General of Illinois, David Franklin, who argued the case. There were explosive contributions from the justices on the bench, but notable silence from the court’s newest member, Justice Neil M Gorsuch. Please fill out the Slate podcast survey at slate.com/podcastsurvey Please let us know what you think of Amicus. Join the discussion of this episode on Facebook. Our email is amicus@slate.com. Podcast production by Sara Burningham Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Corporations, much more so than civil rights organizations, have traditionally been able

0:11.4

to afford the best, most experienced and creative lawyers in the country and have used

0:16.8

those resources to really expand their rights.

0:23.2

If you do not prevail in this case, the unions will have less political influence, yes or

0:29.2

no. Yes, they will have less political influence. Let's stand at the end of this case.

0:29.2

Hi there and welcome back to Amicus, late podcast about the courts and the Supreme Court

0:36.2

and the law. The justices were back in their big puffy chairs on Maryland Avenue this week

0:46.4

and they made some news with a decision in Jennings versus Rodriguez. That's a case that

0:52.0

was filed by a group of immigrants who were being held indefinitely as they awaited the

0:57.3

outcome of their deportation hearings. They wanted to have a new bond hearing every six

1:02.0

months. The court in a five-three vote with Elena Kagan recused told them no. The court

1:08.2

also declined to hear a big DACA case out of California, which, as Linda Greenhouse said,

1:15.0

on this very show a few weeks ago, they weren't going to hear. That's because the ninth

1:20.1

circuit hasn't even heard it yet. The case was kicked back to go through the regular

1:24.6

procedure. The Supreme Court will presumably hear it soon. And the justices heard arguments

1:28.5

in a whole bunch of cases raising questions around free speech at your polling place. And

1:33.8

whether Microsoft has to turn over emails they've stored in Ireland. So that all happened

1:38.6

few and we will be unpacking the details in the weeks and months to come. But this week

1:44.0

we want to take you first into the courtroom to hear some of the oral arguments in the

1:50.6

public sector union fees case. That's Janice. And even though we talked about it in fairly

1:56.1

great detail on the last show, it really was such an incredibly dramatic argument. We

2:02.0

want to put it in your earbuds. And also I think it's worth reiterating the stakes in

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