Hi, I'm Annamarie Cox, and this is With Friends Like These.

Before we begin, I have to remind you that if you are listening to this podcast soon

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This episode is another encore presentation from last spring's Convert Series.

We picked it out as our New Year's Day episode because it is about self-examination and evolution.

Derek Black, a longtime friend of the pod, was born into white nationalism, the godson

of David Duke, and the son of the creator of the white supremacist message board stormfront.

He grew up with white nationalism as an explicit norm.

He had overtly racist ideas and goals for himself.

And he is not that person anymore.

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