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When Decca Met... Jordan Peterson

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🗓️ 31 January 2021

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Jordan Peterson, a clinical psychologist, is a conservative superstar of the culture wars. Known for his confidence in debates, Decca Aitkenhead meets him a changed man. Worshipped by many for his self-help scriptures, Peterson has spent the past year battling drug rehab, suicidal thoughts and Covid-19.


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Guest:

Decca Aitkenhead, Chief interviewer for The Sunday Times.


Host: Manveen Rana.


Clips used: BBC News, The Mikhaila Peterson Podcast, CBC, Channel 4, Truthspeak, GQ.

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Partner of choice. To some he's an icon, a hero, a great public intellectual, the best-selling author of a self-help book

0:47.0

whose every utterance on YouTube instantly gets hundreds of millions of views.

0:53.0

To stand up straight with your shoulders back is to open yourself up to the world.

0:58.0

To others, he's the face of the culture walls,

1:02.0

a man propping up the patriarchy and providing an intellectual facade for the alt-right.

1:08.0

He rails against people who disagree with him as Marxist left-wingers. I am no fan of the radical left.

1:17.0

Jordan Peterson, the Canadian academic and global culture warrior, has always divided opinion.

1:30.0

But the one thing everyone can agree on is that he's had a hell of a year.

1:34.8

Jordan Peterson had been checked into rehab for benzodiazepine dependency in America.

1:41.3

What emerged then the following year seemed so completely bananas and implausible.

1:47.0

Riccheting all around Russia and Eastern Europe, catching God knows what and being put in a coma.

1:51.0

And I just thought, well, of course, none of that's going to really be true.

1:56.2

Why was Jordan Peterson put in a coma in Russia? How does a man who built his fame on preaching a bootstraps mentality cope when life

2:08.6

spirals out of control? You're listening to stories of our times from the Times and the Sunday Times.

2:16.8

I'm Man Vien Rana.

2:18.4

Today, when Decker met Jordan Peterson and his daughter.

2:29.0

My name is Decker Aikenhead

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