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Studio 360 with Kurt Andersen

When Bad People Create Good Art

Studio 360 with Kurt Andersen

PRX

Arts

4.6675 Ratings

🗓️ 15 May 2018

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

In the MeToo era, so many creative people are being outed as bullies, sexual predators, and worse. And for journalists who cover arts and entertainment, it’s been a bit of a tightrope: How can you write about House of Cards or The Cosby Show ever again without the work feeling hopelessly tainted? And are they still great shows, even if their stars or creators aren't?            How do you investigate claims of harassment if no one will talk, and a star's publicist won't let you near their client? What excellent works of art or storytelling were never made because bad men got in the way? A few weeks ago Kurt Andersen participated in a panel to talk about some of these questions with other journalists and critics. The panel was called “When Bad People Create Good Art: Writing About Culture in the #MeToo Era.” It was held at the Graduate School of Journalism at the City University of New York. The panel was moderated by Janice C. Simpson, director of the Arts and Culture Reporting Program at CUNY, and also included: Nekesa Moody, Global Entertainment and Style Editor of the Associated Press; A.O. Scott, film critic of The New York Times. "I like to think about the people who didn't get a chance, people who were in their path who were harmed, how they're doing,” said Maureen Ryan, Chief TV Critic at Variety, who also was on the panel. “I think a lot about that.”

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0:00.0

From PRX.

0:06.5

This is Studio 360. I'm Kurti Anderson.

0:14.0

In the Me Too era, so many creative people are being outed as jerks, bullies, predators, worse. And for journalists who

0:24.8

cover arts and entertainment, it's a bit of a tightrope. How can you write about House of Cards

0:31.3

or The Cosby Show ever again without the work feeling hopelessly tainted? Are they still great shows, even if their stars or

0:40.1

creators, clearly aren't great people? How do you investigate claims of harassment if nobody

0:46.2

will talk? And a star's publicist won't let you near the client. What excellent works were

0:52.6

never made because of lousy men who got in the way. A few weeks ago,

0:58.0

I was on a panel with journalists and critics to talk about some of these questions. It was called

1:03.5

When Bad People Create Good Art, writing about culture in the Me Too era. With me were Nekesamudi,

1:10.5

the Global Entertainment and Style Editor for the Associated Press. Me Too era. With me were Nekesamoudi, the Global Entertainment and Style

1:12.0

Editor for the Associated Press. Me Too, this was the time when we finally had people who were

1:17.8

coming out and some high-profile people were accused of sexual misconduct.

1:21.7

Maureen Ryan, who was chief TV critic at Variety.

1:25.1

I like to think about the creators who didn't get a chance,

1:28.1

people who were in their path, who were harmed, you know, how they're doing.

1:32.9

I mean, I think a lot about that.

1:34.4

And A.O. Scott, one of the film critics for the New York Times,

1:37.6

talking here about Harvey Weinstein.

1:39.3

One of the ways, in retrospect, that he was able to scare people off the kinds of stories that ultimately

1:46.8

came out that undid him was by going aggressively after people for much smaller things. So like

1:52.4

if you if you misreported the box office on one of his pictures. Our moderator that evening was

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