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When Andrew met Mandelson

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3.91.6K Ratings

🗓️ 7 May 2026

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor and Peter Mandelson’s relationship with Jeffrey Epstein has been poured over by the press – but what about their relationship with one another? New Times reporting reveals they met for the first time in 1999 at an NSPCC charity event, and continued a mutually advantageous relationship for a decade. So how do the people who brought them together feel about it now? And what can it tell us about how power works in the upper echelons of British society?


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Guest: Hugo Daniel, general news reporter, The Sunday Times.

Host: Manveen Rana.

Producers: Harry Stott.

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Read more: Revealed: When Andrew first met Peter Mandelson

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0:00.0

From The Times and the Sunday Times, this is the story.

0:06.1

I'm Manvine Rana.

0:09.5

There's a certain irony to how this story begins.

0:14.7

In 1999, the NSPC, which is the National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children,

0:21.5

set up a big campaign, I think maybe their biggest ever,

0:24.7

which was to eradicate child cruelty within 20 years and to raise 250 million pounds.

0:30.6

That's Hugo Daniel, a news reporter at the Sunday Times.

0:34.4

He's been looking back at that NSPC campaign from the late 90s. It was a big deal,

0:42.2

backed by a slew of celebrities and featuring a famous and rather shocking TV advert.

0:53.9

It's an unlikely backdrop. You're brilliant! You're no shot of mine!

0:56.1

It's an unlikely backdrop for a friendship between two well-connected establishment figures to begin.

1:04.2

But then, this was a campaign that attracted the great and the good.

1:09.4

There was a big launch at the Theatre Royal.

1:12.6

Celebrities were there.

1:14.5

Prince Andrew was there.

1:15.5

He was the chair of the campaign.

1:17.4

He does a speech about the scourge of child abuse

1:21.4

and how he's a father of two children himself.

1:25.0

In launching this 250 million pound campaign today, I am prepared to stand firm and be counted.

1:31.9

As a father, I am a parent of young children.

1:35.5

Together, we must ensure that we take the responsibility for our actions.

1:40.8

There's other celebrities there, there's Emma Bunton, The Spice Girl, Silla Black, Andrew Lloyd Webber, Tony Blair.

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