Anytime I'm using introverted thinking, I'm being logical.

It's like, well, maybe. I mean, it wants you to be. That's its desire. It would love for you to be logically consistent and question your premises because its job is to solve problems. And it wants the best information it can possibly plug in in order to solve those problems. But there's a difference between the tool and the operator. Exactly. The tool and the operator and the energy they're bringing with it.

The more we understand the nature of the theory, the map, we can start to see it show up in ourselves

and in other people. And that's why it's so powerful for coaching and so powerful for doing our own

inner work.

Hey, welcome back to the Personality Hacker podcast. My name is Joel Mark Witt.

And I'm Antonio Dodge. Do I look tan? Antonio? You do. I do. You are less white.

Yes. Is that true? That's your version of tan. I always tell people I'm as white as the Google

homepage. Yes. That is true. I have that European white blood in me, I guess.

So I was just like, I don't, I burn, but then I do have like a little bit of a tan. So the reason I'm asking is we actually, for the first time in what, four years? Yes. We took a little bit of an actual vacation. We've taken trips and we've taken a couple days here and there, But we actually, we actually get to sit on the beach for like a couple days for the first time.

And I don't remember the last time I got to do this.

It was wonderful. Every trip, every quote unquote vacation is always a working vacation. Always. Yeah, we're always combining it with like a profile or training event in Florida or something. So we have like little moments. We went to Denver last year. We snuck away to the Rocky Mountain National Park for like three days. After an event. Right. So you're excited. When we do those then, you're exhausted because we just did this teaching event. Yeah, and you always make me hike a lot. And I'm always dragging us to these adventures. But this time I said, you know what? Let's just go and do nothing. And you love that. It was the greatest thing that ever happened to me Is doing nothing I was a little stir crazy by day three

I was like I gotta go do something

Yeah I was not

I was like, I got to go do something. Yeah, I was not. I was like, yeah, I could just keep doing this for six more months. Because there's two different ways of travel. It's like vacation to travel. One's like adventure, traveling, hiking, exploring. That's how I grew up vacationing. Like, my parents never

sat on the beach for more than like an hour. Right. And they were back on the road and we're climbing mountains and seeing waterfalls and all that. But your family did the second version, right, where you sat around a little bit more or chilled more? We also were the adventurous type. But you went like camping and just stayed in one spot for like days at a time. Yeah, but I mean like we were, you know,

we were, it wasn't like we were the, you know, get a resort and sit on the beach. We weren't that kind of vacationing family. I don't think we're quite as quite as intense as your family was, but we, you know, like we had a camper and we would hit national parks and do that kind of thing. I'm not against that. You know,

like my favorite vacations when I was younger were the ones where I was like backpacking through

places. Sure. So it's not like that's a problem. It's just we've been working so unbelievably

hard for so long that I just needed to be, you know, prone for a time so that my, my body could remember what rest felt like.

Yeah.

And so it was actually quite, it was, it was fabulous.

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