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Proverbs 31 is well known to many people.

It's about the attributes of what we call a godly wife.

And one of the verses in Proverbs chapter 31 is she opens her mouth with wisdom

and the teaching of kindness is on her tongue.

And I'm John Fuller, along with Dr. Greg Smalley and his wife, Aaron, who lead the marriage

team here. You talk to a lot of couples. You have a vibrant counseling practice. Last time we mentioned

you're also doing a doctorate. You're kind of busy. You're a mom. And obviously, you've got a very

loving husband right there next to you. Goes to the same. What would you say, just kind of on top of the

head estimate for the couples who come in,

one of the reasons they're seeing you in a counseling office is because she's not encouraging

her husband in a way that's meaningful to him.

Oftentimes when couples come in, John, there's been pain.

And so pain and hurt impacts the heart.

A heart that's closed doesn't encourage because typically when a, especially a wife comes in and

the husband saying, well, I need her to encourage me, she's dealing with her own pain. And her

heart's probably closed, maybe calcified, maybe hardened,

because there's been a pattern of something that has inflicted pain. And her heart doesn't feel

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