There are moments when you're raising kids and you want to serve your marriage, but it's so hard.

You just get overwhelmed because life happens. And I remember many years ago, my wife Dina was in a

Bible study, and they said, we're going to have a ladies getaway. We're going to get off as a group and go to the

mountains and it's going to be a long weekend. And I thought, yeah, it's going to be a long weekend

because it's going to be me with the kids. But it was so good for her to get away. She just needed

some space. I'm John Fuller, along with Dr. Greg Smalley and his wife, Aaron. They lead the Focus Marriage team. Welcome to the show.

We're going to turn now to a conversation that Focus President Jim Daly had on his show.

He spoke with Dave and Ashley Willis, and Ashley opened up about a time she really needed to unplug.

Ashley, one thing I want to recognize four wives and mothers right now is that as you were

talking, it hit me, everybody's pulling on you.

Yes.

And I can get that because typically in that busy season, you're not as the wife initiating

intimacy.

Right.

And you feel like I've got the kids pulling on me.

Now I got my husband pulling on me.

It's pour out, pour out, give, give, give, give, give.

Who's filling my tank?

Right.

Just describe that.

And then what can we do as husbands to help fill that tank up in a way that feels true and not motivated by some

other underlying desire. Exactly. No, and that you just hit the nail on the head. I think that

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