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One of the best ways to keep your marriage strong is to surround yourself with friends who will tell you the truth.

I'm John Fuller, along with Dr. Greg Smalley and his wife, Aaron Smalley.

They lead the Focus Marriage team, and we're going to jump right in now to a clip from Focus on the Family with Jim Daly.

Jim spoke with Jim Turner, who admitted that in his first marriage, he was emotionally

distant from his wife.

He has since learned from his early mistakes.

And today, he talks about how his friend Matt was brutally honest with him.

What role did Matt play in saying, hey, Jim, you could see this a little differently?

Matt's one of those kind of guys that he's able to compartmentalize, okay, and he's able to get things done.

But he also has very, very clear relational connection with Lisa, his wife.

Incredible as I walked alongside him for years to watch their relationship.

They've been on the broadcast.

I learned, yeah.

I learned a lot from Matt.

But Matt and I were meeting weekly.

I was going through a divorce at the time from my first wife.

And we met every week just so I could survive.

And she was the one a moment ago you're talking about who struggled with your lack of connection, right?

Eventually, it was too much for her.

She couldn't live with it.

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