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Hey, I do part two. It's your mentor, Kathy Swartz, from the Golden Bachelor,

and the podcast Bachelor Happy Hour, Golden Hour. Today, I've got an amazing guest from Bachelor Nation, former bachelorette, now in her chapter two ashley a bear so actually you were first a contestant on

brad walmack season and brad lives in austin like i do so there's that connection and then you went on to star

in the bachelorette for our audience audience, you know, who may not know,

tell them how it all turned out for you, your season as a Bachelorette. My goodness. Yeah,

it's a long story. I would say overall it was a very successful part of my life, even though

it didn't turn out in, you know, a merit, we were married for 10 years.

But I feel like even though we didn't stay married, like what came of being on the show and

our relationship is like such a beautiful thing and such an important part of my life and his life

and our lives together. And even though we're not, you know, even though we're not in love,

we still have a great relationship. And I feel like we've created two like amazing human beings.

And we just live a very happy, fruitful life. So I feel like, you know, a lot of good things came out.

I know a lot of people say,

oh, it wasn't a success. It wasn't a true success story. But to us, it's like a real success

because our lives are forever, you know, we're blessed by all of the things that the show brought

to us. So I think it's a real success. Well, I'm glad to hear that. I would say it's a real success.

I mean, you, how many contestants actually marry the guy that they get engaged to?

Right.

So the fact that you and JP did get married and had these two great kids and built a life for 10 years.

I mean, that's really the building blocks of a good, happy life.

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