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In the Bubble with Andy Slavitt

What Zero-COVID Protests Mean for China and the World

In the Bubble with Andy Slavitt

Lemonada Media

News

4.63.5K Ratings

🗓️ 2 December 2022

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

The widespread protests against the Chinese government are the most extensive since Tiananmen Square in 1989. The demonstrations are against both the severe zero-COVID policies and Xi Jinping’s rule. But the consequences of protesting in China are harsh. Andy speaks with two China experts, Xiao Qiang at the University of California Berkeley and Michael Beckley at Tufts University, about whether COVID rules will loosen, why these protests could mark the start of an even more authoritarian era, and what a coming crackdown on the Chinese people might look like.

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Welcome to the bubble with Andy Slavitt and our Friday conversation.

1:31.0

Today our focus is on China, where we are seeing something quite unusual.

1:37.0

White spread protests against the Chinese government.

1:41.0

The demonstrations are the most extensive series of protests since the pro-democracy movement

1:48.0

culminated in the clash of 10th and square in 1989.

1:52.0

Now, depending on what numbers you want to believe, somewhere between several hundred

1:57.0

and thousands of people died at the hands of the Chinese government in 1989.

2:03.0

So we've got to find out where this is headed.

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