Hello, and welcome to another episode of Iway with Jumea the Jamel podcast

wants to destroy

every large shred over your shame. I hope you're well. I really do. I hope you're okay and

if you're not

maybe this fucking episode will tell you why

especially if you are someone who has a

female reproductive system this

episode of this podcast

stressed me out in a good way. It made me feel

invigorated to take on a fight that I didn't know I had to take on and it is

life-changing and I really mean that

in this episode we are talking about the contraceptive pill, the history of the contraceptive pill,

the things that have been hidden from us, the impact and what needs to change. It honestly has

left me, I mean literally almost speechless. I get to interview Ricky Lake who is a sort of

national treasure in the United States. One of the biggest ever talk show hosts and

just such an incredible staple of a human being who's meant so much to so many people and so many

different areas her entire career from such a young age, such an inspiring woman and she will come

back on this podcast another time just to talk about her life. But this episode she is joined by

Abby Epstein, her documentary making partner about their latest documentary. Now Ricky went into

documentaries years and years ago and is best known for her work on the business of being born,

which was at the time a hugely controversial documentary about alternative birthing methods

and the birthing industry etc. Now years and years later we see that actually the world has kind

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