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This is the outside podcast with Paddyo. Do you ever get freaked out at all by the difference of you chasing the storm and the storm chasing you?

You know when you get freaked out is when you're on dirt roads, a mile-wide tornadoes coming towards.

If the road is tilted, gravity is pulling you into the ditch.

And that's where the water and the mud is, and that's where you get stuck. If you're following it, it's like, oh, darn, I'm going to get stuck. I'm just going to lose it. But what if you think I can beat this tornado across this road and be in the perfect spot to photograph it and you're driving and the road starts to deteriorate? Like, oh, what have I done? what have I done? What have I done? You have to slow down. That sounds terrifying. That is terrifying.

Would you say that you get in that situation a couple times a season? More than that, unfortunately. But it's, I really? Oh, God, Hank. There's been a couple times where a surprise happens, the tornadoes come in, and then you're driving, and then all of a sudden a downburst happens over your escape route. You didn't foresee that. Now, you can't drive 15 miles per hour because you can't see anything. And it's like, oh my God, that tornadoes still come. I'm picturing this in my mind. I feel like I'm watching a horror movie. That sounds awful. It is. It is terrible. It's is the, the feeling of, am I going to survive, is a terrible feeling. And I have that feeling too often.

If you spend time outside, you eventually deal with gnarly weather. I certainly have. Once during a rafting trip on the San Juan, the upriver wind was so intense our oars acted as sails anytime they

weren't in the water. And we got pinned on the canyon wall for hours. When I ski patrolled,

hairball weather was an everyday occurrence. Like the time we

were bootpacking a ridge that basically disappeared because the snow was hammering so hard.

Probably the most meaningful bonkers weather I ever encountered was at my own wedding.

Picture torrential rain, flash floods, and a lightning strike during

our vows that was so close, it lit up the faces of screaming guests like a camera flash. My wife was so

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