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Deconstructed

What You Can't Say About Israel (with Marc Lamont Hill)

Deconstructed

The Intercept

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4.84.7K Ratings

🗓️ 24 January 2019

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

There are signs that U.S. opinion might be shifting on Israel and its illegal occupation of the Palestinian territories. But the defenders of the Israeli government aren’t going to just give up without a fight. Angela Davis recently had a civil rights award revoked for her support of the BDS movement, and Dr. Marc Lamont Hill was fired from CNN for a pro-Palestine speech he delivered at the UN. He joins Mehdi Hasan along with Lara Friedman, president of the Foundation for Middle East Peace who is a liberal supporter of Israel but also opposed to the criminalization of BDS.

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There is a very narrow framework that we're allowed to use to engage in conversations about

0:06.4

the question of Israel and Palestine. But do I stand by? What I say? Absolutely. I think I was right.

0:18.4

Welcome to Deconstructed, I'm Mairi Hassan. Today, the debate over Israel and its occupation.

0:24.2

Why is it so difficult in the United States to criticize Israel and are defenders of the world

0:29.2

only Jewish state? Correct to suggest that much of the opposition to Israel stems from anti-Semitism.

0:35.2

The idea that BDS isn't anti-Semitic is to me almost self-evident. Having a boycott

0:41.0

that investment sanction movement against a particular nation state is not anti-Semitic. It's a critique

0:45.8

and it's a response to Israeli policy. That was Mark Lamont Hill who was fired by CNN for supposedly

0:52.2

crossing a line in terms of his criticism of Israel, just the latest public figure to run a foul

0:57.8

of the unwritten codes that govern discourse on this contentious subject here in the United States.

1:03.7

But whatever happened to free speech and the right to offend. I'm delighted to say that Mark's

1:08.1

my guest on the show today as is Laura Friedman, president of the foundation for Middle East peace,

1:13.6

and a friend of Israel, though a critical friend. Let's examine what they're saying. It's anti-Semitic

1:20.7

to say that some people are not having democracy and that they should. That's actually holding

1:25.6

Israel to a lower standard. So this week on Deconstructed, what can't we say about Israel?

1:34.9

In a world in which it often seems like we can never run out of hot takes and

1:38.7

insta-comments, Michelle Alexander's op-ed in The New York Times this past weekend surely merits

1:43.6

the title of Must Read Stand Out comment piece of 2019 so far. If you don't know who Michelle

1:50.0

Alexander is, number one, shame on you, and number two, she's an academic activist lawyer and of

1:56.1

course author of the acclaimed and searing 2010 book The New Jim Crow, mass incarceration in the age

2:02.7

of color blindness. She was hired by The New York Times to be an opinion columnist last summer,

2:06.8

the first woman of color to make it onto the op-ed pages of the Times, and it's pretty shameful.

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