Welcome the conversations that may be Welcome to the Conversations That Matter Podcast. My name is John Harris. We're going to take a trip today down memory lane, May of 1930. Story time with John today. May of 1930. of

30 story time with John today may of 1930 and it's an article by J Gresham

Machen and the title of it is the present situation in the

Presbyterian church someone sent this to me and I thought man this is a good is the present situation in the Presbyterian Church.

Someone sent this to me and I thought, man, this is a good article.

This is actually, in many ways, an article that parallels some of the things that we're seeing

today in the PCA but also in other

evangelical denominations being compromised by social justice and its various

iterations. Now, May of 1930, what was going on? Well, at that point, the modernist controversy was pretty much in the main line denominations being won by the modernists.

You have, most notably, R.A. Tori is the fundamentals in, you know, that would have been during

World War I, around that period of time, a number of publications were put out there trying to defend orthodoxy against attacks

from higher criticism, Darwinian evolution, social gospel, some of that stuff is really the same kind of thing we're dealing

with today, just a previous iteration of it, especially in regards to the social

gospel. And in this particular article,

J Greshamation talks about modernism.

Liberalism would be the word that he uses in his book Christianity and liberalism which I'd

recommend everyone reading. It's not going to parallel in exactness every

single thing that's happening today in the church but there are a lot of things that are

eerily similar and I write about this in my book Christianity and social justice I

picked that title specifically to riff off of Jay Gresham ancient because his book Christianity

and liberalism.

The thesis of it is that liberalism is a religion opposed to Christianity essentially. That's what it is. And so I think

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