What Would Jesus Do? Apparently, Build a Billion Dollar Ballroom
Bulwark Takes
The Bulwark
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🗓️ 18 May 2026
⏱️ 16 minutes
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Summary
Tim Miller and Cameron Kasky join together in New Orleans for a weekend potpourri: the most expensive congressional primary in history (and why a Parkland survivor is rooting for the libertarian gun guy), Eric Metaxas declaring God's divine will is being spent on Trump's ballroom, and why Trump's Iran threats stopped meaning anything weeks ago. Plus: oil at $107, the parliamentarian strikes back, and Tim gets caught on Geese Reddit.
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| 0:00.0 | Ladies and gentlemen, we've got Tim Miller here. My name is Cameron Marley Caskey. This is the Bullwark podcast. We got a great day of content coming for you. What's going on, Cameron? What are you doing here? I'm spending the weekend in New Orleans with my friends Tim and Tyler and the wonderful Toulouse, and we are hanging out. It's so good to have Cameron here. This isn't really a stupid. It's kind of like a little buddy comedy vibe. We're getting pretty close to each other. but it's been nice to have Cameron. |
| 0:24.3 | I want to do a little buddy comedy vibe. We're getting pretty close to each other. |
| 0:21.6 | But it's been nice to have Cameron. I want to do a little weekend po-pery for everybody, where I discuss a couple of topics that have caught my eye. |
| 0:29.6 | But before I just rants to you by myself, I kind of wanted to get Cameron's take on what's happening with Thomas Massey in Kentucky. |
| 0:38.8 | Because it intersects with a few interests of yours. |
| 0:40.6 | First, you have the Gen Z child of Rand Paul, screaming anti-Semitic slurs at a bar at Mike Lawler. |
| 0:48.9 | And Mike Lawler isn't even Jewish, right? |
| 0:50.6 | Not Jewish, yeah. |
| 0:51.6 | So there's that. |
| 0:52.2 | And his Twitter handle is Tasty |
| 0:54.3 | Brew 1776. That's Rand Paul's son's Twitter. I mean, that's like AI generated |
| 1:02.2 | conservative Twitter handle. On the nose. Okay. It's also intersecting with you because, you know, |
| 1:07.6 | you're doing some stuff for your boy, Roecona, has been working with Massey on, you know, the Epstein bill and the Iran War Powers bill, and APEC is big in the rate. So a lot of your interests are intersecting in this Kentucky congressional race. So it's wondering your take. It's a very fascinating thing. So for anyone who doesn't know, this primary to stop Thomas Massey is now the most expensive primary in history. |
| 1:30.1 | There is more money that has been dumped into stopping Thomas Massey than ever before. |
| 1:35.0 | And it's kind of, yeah, it's kind of infuriating because here I am rooting for the most conservative member of Congress, the member of Congress who has cast the most |
| 1:45.5 | Republican votes. Here I am saying, hold strong, baby. And he doesn't believe that, like, |
| 1:50.4 | government should exist. I think government should, like, basically do, like, roads and military, |
| 1:54.6 | and, like, that's it. So for, again. And not even really military that much. Yeah. For anyone |
| 1:58.9 | who isn't locked into the massy of it all, |
| 2:01.8 | this is the most conservative person you could possibly imagine so much. I mean, we're talking, |
| 2:06.4 | this guy's got a farm. He's got patents. He's the type of guy who you picture sitting on his porch |
| 2:13.8 | cleaning a shotgun. Well, he has the guns Christmas cars. Have you ever seen that? |
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