What would it take for Alex O'Connor to believe Jesus rose from the dead? Trent Horn v Alex O'Connor

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Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

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🗓️ 30 April 2026

⏱️ 91 minutes

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Did Jesus really rise from the dead, or is the resurrection best explained another way? In this gripping debate, Alex O'Connor and Trent Horn go head-to-head on one of history’s most controversial claims. Trent argues that the resurrection offers the best explanation for the historical evidence: the empty tomb, the transformation of the disciples, and early eyewitness testimony. Alex pushes back, questioning the reliability of the sources and offering alternative explanations from visionary experiences to parallels with other religious movements. Along the way, they tackle group hallucinations, the martyrdom of the apostles, and even surprising comparisons with Mormonism. Hosted by John Nelson, this is a thoughtful, fast-paced exchange that gets to the heart of whether the resurrection is fact, faith, or something else entirely. Subscribe & Support 👉 Support thought-provoking conversations and help keep the show going at www.premierunbelievable.com/geolink/donate💡 🎧 Never miss an episode! Subscribe to the Unbelievable? podcast a www.premier.plus/unbelievable 🎙️ 🔗 Get bonus content, updates, fascinating articles, and early access to new episodes - absolutely free! Join now at www.premierunbelievable.com 📢 Follow usInstagram: https://instagram.com/premierunbelievable Facebook: https://facebook.com/premierunbelievable Tik Tok: https://tiktok.com/@premier.unbelievable X: https://x.com/UnbelievableFE

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0:00.0	If you follow Jesus, you're already doing God's work, not just on Sundays or in church,
0:06.2	but in those emails and financial reports.
0:08.9	Kitchen tables are on the school run.
0:11.5	I'm pastor and author Tom Nelson, and in my new podcast, God's Work,
0:15.4	we're going to completely change how you think about your job.
0:18.1	So step into my office for some weekly workplace wisdom.
0:21.9	Search God's work with Tom Nelson on Premiere Plus,
0:25.2	wherever you get your podcast.
0:30.7	Did Jesus rise from the dead?
0:34.9	I'm John Nelson, and today on Unbelievable,
0:37.1	we have two exceptional guests discussing the resurrection.
0:40.6	Joining me in the studio is Alex O'Connor, a public philosopher and host of the Within Reason podcast.
0:46.7	And joining us online is Trent Horn, a Catholic apologist at the Council of Trent.
0:52.2	Alex, I know you've debated Trent a couple of times before, and I think you once described
0:56.0	him as your most formidable debating partner.
0:59.0	Are you ready for around two or three?
1:01.0	I can't wait.
1:02.0	I did, in part because Trent was one of my early debates.
1:06.0	I mean, back in probably 2019 or 2020 or something, we had an online debate, and I remember
1:10.0	thinking, gosh, these things sometimes take a bit more preparation than you might have thought. But the thing I like most about Trent, I think, is he seems like just a decent bloke who's interested in having good conversations. So I'm kind of looking forward to this, yeah. Well, it's so good to have you both on Unbelievable. Trent, maybe we can just dive right in with the
1:28.0	argument. Before the show began, we were discussing how your approach might differ from some other
1:33.1	apologetic approaches to the resurrection. Can you just outline how would you argue, how would you make
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