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Hi, this is Julisa Arse and in this week's Cricut conversation we talk to Hiroshi Motomura,

who is a preeminent immigration scholar. He's a professor at the UCLA School of Law and he's the

author of a number of books including books that are used in law schools all across the country.

I was really excited about this conversation because there's been so much attention on the hashtag

of Aulish Ice and I was just really interested to hear from Hiroshi to put some context around

where this hashtag came from, what ice is, what it does, how it's different than border patrol,

how it's different than where people go apply for their citizenship and green cards,

what ice is notorious for doing wrong and where we can go from here. So have a listen, I hope you

enjoy it. So thank you Hiroshi for joining us on this Cricut conversation. I am really excited to

talk to you about this because like every time we have conversations about it, I feel like I

I learned so much from you and what I want to do is before we sort of get started on the conversation

about abolishing ice is to set some context about what ice is, what it does, what it came from,

why it even exists in the first place. So if you could tell us or put ice in context,

like when was ice created and why was it created? Sure, thanks a lot for having me. This is a,

I think, a very important conversation, an important topic and I think it is useful to start with

where where I started. Ice has been around for about 15 years and it was created as part of the

reorganization of immigration regulation in the federal government and that essentially is in

the immediate aftermath of 9-11. So folks may recall that after 9-11, there was the concern about

Homeland Security as it became, came to be called and the department was created and so that occasion

was the occasion to reorganize a lot of the immigration functions in government and so what happened

is that you had different agencies created within DHS. One of them was on the border, it's called

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