Welcome to Current Affairs. My name is Nathan Robinson. I'm the editor in chief of current affairs magazine.

Returning to the program today is the journalist Johann Hari. He is author of books, such as chasing the scream, Scream, Lost Connections, and most recently, Magic Hill,

extraordinary benefits and disturbing risks of the new weight loss drugs available from Crown Press.

Johann Hari, welcome back to Current Affairs.

I'm so happy to be with you, Nathan, especially in your newly

lasered forms. So, like, it's weird. I feel like without glasses, I feel like I'm fully related.

Yeah, I used to be spectacles.

I didn't know you had eyes.

This is one thing I found out is that I had only seen my eyes through smeared lenses,

and it's very strange to me to see my eyes more and go, mine eyes have seen the glory of Nathan.

Now, we're here to talk about your book and not my eyes.

Let me ask you this.

Surely we can do both, Nathan.

I was surprised.

I was surprised by the subject matter of your book.

What could you interest to?

Why have I worked on these new weight

loss drugs? Why did this fascinate to the extent of doing this intense amount of research?

You know, Barclays Bank commissioned this very sober-minded financial analyst called Emily Field

to do a kind of investigation of these drugs to give them guidance on like investment

for the future, right? And so they could give

kind of investment guidance and so on. And she came back and said, if you want to understand the

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