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Hey there, it's the NPR politics podcast. I'm Ayesha Roscoe. I cover the White House.

I'm Scott Detro. I cover the Biden transition.

I'm Jennifer Lutton. I edit energy and environment.

So, Jennifer Lutton, you're here joining us. Thanks so much for talking with us.

Hello. Hello.

So, Joe Biden has over and over emphasized climate as a central part of his administration.

We're going to get into what that really means.

But first, let's start with what the last four years have looked like for climate policy

because it really hasn't existed, right, Jennifer?

Well, it's been very active sort of like in the reverse.

I mean, after going from President Obama to Trump was like whiplash

and we're kind of heading reverse whiplash again,

all those actions that Obama took in eight years.

We have seen dozens and dozens of rollbacks of them.

There was the Paris climate accord, of course, and then rules to bring down carbon emissions in power plants,

cars more fuel efficient to, you know, restrict to development of wetlands and so forth.

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