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This is Deep State Radio.

Coming to you direct from our super secret studio in the third sub-basement of the Ministry of

Snark in Washington, D.C. and from other undisclosed locations across America and around the world.

Hello and welcome to a special episode of Deep State Radio. I'm your host David Rothkov coming to you from New York City coming to you from Washington DC we have our

friend and regular partner on all of this at loose of the Financial Times. How are you today, Ed?

Great, thanks David.

Also joined by another friend in Washington, Norm Ornstein.

Norm is a Meredith scholar at the American Enterprise Institute.

And, you know, at the American Enterprise Institute.

And, you know, one of the smartest guys we ever talked to on politics.

How are you doing Norm?

I'm doing better after that introduction.

Thank you.

You have very much David. Well, that's certainly it's certainly the truth. And a first time

visitor here, but somebody all of you are familiar with, Heather Cox Richardson is an expert in 19th century history, a well-known historian, well-known commentator these days, somebody who brings together history and context to all of this.

Welcome Heather.

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