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Best Podcast in Baseball

What will 1985 NL champ Ricky Horton be watching for as 're-something' Cardinals begin games

Best Podcast in Baseball

St. Louis Post-Dispatch

Sports, Baseball

4.8673 Ratings

🗓️ 20 February 2025

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

JUPITER, Fla. -- There is a sense around the Cardinals that one of the reasons for reducing expectations, seesawing between the words "reset" and "transition" but never once using the world "rebuild," is that the club is trying to create a valve to release some of the pressure that greats young players when they arrive in the greenhouse of October demands. It's as if the Cardinals front office is trying to take the team out of the Jiffy-Pop tin of its usual brand and try something new, trying to see what grows when that greenhouse is a little cooler.

Former Cardinals pitcher, current Cardinals broadcaster, and winner of the 2025 St. Louis Baseball Writers' of America Chapter's 'Good Guy Award,' Ricky Horton joins the Best Podcast in Baseball to discuss that release of pressure and what it means for the Cardinals.

Horton, who appears on the KMOX/1120 AM and Cardinals Radio Network broadcasts,  discusses with BPIB host Derrick Goold what he'll be watching as spring games begin. The two also talk about what lens to use when evaluating the Cardinals given the youth movement, and finally they explore whether the Dodgers' spending and acquisition of talent is creating a juggernaut unlike any baseball has seen. The Dodgers are likened to the Death Star. There is a stretch of the podcast where the most cynical of Cardinals fans might need earmuffs as Horton and Goold discuss whether a trade not made this winter means a red jacket that must be made in the future. And Horton describes how Whitey Herzog approached pressure and whether there is a lesson from the 1985 Cardinals for the 2025 Cardinals on the power of adopting a style of baseball.

The Best Podcast in Baseball, sponsored by Closets by Design of St. Louis, is brought to listeners weekly in its 13th season. The podcast is a production of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, StlToday.com, and Derrick Goold. 

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0:00.0

The best podcast in baseball is brought to you by Closets by Design.

0:05.7

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0:12.6

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0:14.4

That's 1-800 by design.

0:17.2

This is brand new BPIB from Cardinal Spring Training in Jupiter, Florida, I talk to former Cardinal pitcher, current Cardinal broadcaster and perpetual good guy, Ricky Horton, about what he's looking forward to as he gets ready to call the exhibition games and Great Fruit League play, which begins this weekend.

0:38.4

We also talk about the lens through which to judge and look and evaluate the players in spring,

0:44.0

but also how to look at a youth movement for a Cardinals team that really has always been about winning

0:50.6

and now says it's about developing.

0:53.8

Cue the music.

1:02.7

The best fans in baseball deserve the best podcast in baseball.

1:07.8

It's BPIB.

1:09.2

Here's your host, Derek Gould.

1:11.0

Hello, everybody, and welcome to the best podcast in baseball, brought to you by Clauses

1:13.7

by Design of St. Louis. I'm St. Louis Post-Dispatch baseball writer, Derek Gould, joined

1:17.4

here in Jupiter, Florida by former Cardinals pitcher, current Cardinals broadcaster,

1:23.8

and winner of the 2025 St. Louis Baseball Writers' Chapter Good Guy Award, which is how I lured him onto this podcast.

1:31.1

It's Ricky Horton.

1:32.1

Well, I guess I'm going to have to be nice to you this morning to live up to that award, but that was very kind.

1:37.6

You know, I love the baseball writer's dinner.

1:39.0

I've been going for so many years.

1:40.5

It's just kind of a celebration of baseball, and it was really cool to be a part of that.

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