You're going to be. Welcome to On the bench. We got part two of the What Happened with

Willy podcast series. I'm Brendan Sinone. I got Josh Newburgh,

Chris knee with me. Fellas, good's it going great yes go great Brendan to the tree

I already butcher the first intro to this so I'm trying not to butcher the second one I know Josh I don't have to say it I'm

apologizing up in front again like last time I think that was good for the the first episode so

we're continuing our series with basically the debacle that was the Willie Tagger era at

Florida State and really the last episode was about the 29 or 20 excuse me 2018 season, what went wrong with him and basically the management

of the program and now we get into it I think is kind of the nitty gritty and that's Willie's

lone full off season at Florida State and guys it was a well Josh

I'll start with you to get your general thoughts on it was it was interesting and

seemed really really unorganized.

Yeah, there was a lot of, it was very tumultuous.

I think that would be the word I would use between recruiting, trying to find a quarterback

shuffling the deck there.

Coaching, trying to replace certain coaches,

trying to get rid of certain coaches.

Nothing went smooth and certainly nothing went quickly.

And that was something that we had seen kind of in the previous off season when he had a truncated window to kind of put a staff together that things weren't smooth and it didn't happen in a quick efficient

manner but it really gets magnified into the off season so we left off the last

podcast after the u f game ends of basically four decades of bowl games for Florida State to lose that contest.

You finish above, or sorry below 500 and after that game there is tension in the locker room there is frustration it

spills over to the point where guys are pointing fingers and arguing and it's

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