What We've Learned About Security and Intelligence Failures on Jan. 6
The Lawfare Podcast
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🗓️ 24 March 2023
⏱️ 58 minutes
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Summary
Last month, the Government Accountability Office released its latest report on the insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, focusing on the failures of several government agencies to fully process and share information about a potential attack in the days and weeks leading up to January 6, 2021.
Lawfare Senior Editor and Brookings Senior Fellow Molly Reynolds sat down with NBC News Justice Reporter Ryan Reilly, who's reported broadly on law enforcement issues related to Jan. 6, and Lawfare Senior Editor Quinta Jurecic. They discussed what we know about how and why law enforcement struggled in the lead-up to the insurrection and the challenges for the road ahead.
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| 0:29.0 | The wide-angle shots that, you know, cable news was able to set up from a long distance away |
| 0:40.0 | in these sort of wide shots of the Capitol and some people on the stairs |
| 0:44.0 | and not seeing what was happening on Twitter if you're experiencing it that day, |
| 0:49.0 | seeing this unfold live and seeing these awful images of law enforcement being overrun |
| 0:56.0 | that you could just watch on a lot of live streams or on clips that were being posted on Twitter. |
| 1:01.0 | That's the way that you saw what was actively happening on the ground that day |
| 1:05.0 | and the Bureau was just so far behind on that. |
| 1:08.0 | And I think it is this interesting thing, right, because you don't want the Bureau over-collecting |
| 1:13.0 | and sort of just observing this information for the sake of it. |
| 1:17.0 | But at the same time, if something this massive is just unfolding in open, |
| 1:23.0 | unavailable open source channels that you can just watch, |
| 1:27.0 | it seems like they're just really behind on that. |
| 1:30.0 | And I think a lot of that has to do with, you know, |
| 1:33.0 | the way that they sort of handle technology internally and the way that, you know, |
| 1:37.0 | they have stuff on the high side and the low side. |
| 1:40.0 | I'm Molly Reynolds, Senior Fellow at Brookings and Senior Edithert LawFair, |
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