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Coffee House Shots

What we learnt from the Cummings evidence

Coffee House Shots

The Spectator

News, Politics, Government, Daily News

4.42.1K Ratings

🗓️ 26 May 2021

⏱️ 17 minutes

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Summary

From accusing Matt Hancock of criminal incompetence, to lifting the lid on the true nature of his relationship with Boris Johnson, Dominic Cummings's evidence was nothing short of explosive. Katy Balls talks to Isabel Hardman and James Forsyth about the highlights and what we learnt.

Transcript

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0:13.9

By the 31st of October, our relations were essentially already finished. The fact that his girlfriend

0:18.6

also wanted rid of me was relevant, but not the heart of the problem. The fact that his girlfriend also wanted rid of me was, you know, relevant,

0:22.0

but not the heart of the problem. The other problem was, fundamentally, I regarded him as

0:28.1

unfit for the job and I was trying to create a structure around him to try and stop what I thought

0:33.4

were extremely bad decisions and push other things through against his wishes. And he had the view

0:38.2

that he was Prime Minister and I should just be doing as he wanted me to. And that's obviously not

0:42.3

sustainable for very long. I think that the Secretary of State for Health should have been fired

0:47.6

for at least 15, 20 things, including lying to everybody in multiple occasions in meeting after meeting in the cabinet room and publicly.

0:57.0

He said, quote, I've been told for years that there is a whole plan for this.

1:03.0

There is no plan. We're in huge trouble.

1:07.0

I've come through here, to the...

1:10.0

Teller Michael Morris said, I've come through here to the... Teller Macon Morris said,

1:11.7

I've come through here to the Prime Minister's office

1:13.4

to tell you all, quote,

1:15.5

I think we are absolutely fucked.

1:20.5

Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots,

1:22.6

the spectator's daily politics podcast.

1:24.8

I'm Katie Balls, and I'm joined by James Forsyfe

1:27.0

and it's for Hardman.

1:28.3

And we just had, I was going to see six, but we're now until seven hours. It started at

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