Scrimmage number one, number one of three this spring was completed over the weekend. Mike Norvel spoke about it. Tony White spoke about it. We're going to break it down today here on WarChance TV. Ira, you were in the room for Tony White. You were in the virtual meeting room for Mike Norvel. Any broad takeaways you want to start with? I think, you know, I asked Mike Norvel if either side of the ball was definitively ahead of the other side of the ball. And sometimes coaches will talk about that. And it's pretty common for defenses, either early in spring or early in preseason camp to be ahead of offenses. It's just kind of the nature of the beast. It's a little bit easier to put in what you're trying to put in than it is to maybe execute everything you're trying

to do offensively. And he said, no, that it is very even back and forth. But I don't know,

it just sounds to me like while the offense is hitting some big plays, it does seem to me

like the defense is kind of controlling the action, especially up front. We've heard a lot of

different things about the defense being really, the defense of front kind of controlling the action, especially up front. We've heard a lot of different things about

the defense being really the defensive front, kind of controlling the action, penetrating a lot.

Even they haven't put out a lot of clips of plays, but a couple of the clips of plays that

FSU's put out on social media show plays getting blown up by, you know, penetrating

linebackers, DB.Bs, defensive

linemen. And that's consistent with what we're hearing as well. So I think that's probably

the most encouraging thing so far. On the flip side, it is happening against Florida

State's offensive line. So that's not a great sign. But, you know, it's, you know, I think

there's a lot of interesting little things. But to me, that's the biggest storyline so far if the defensive line, defensive front is kind of dominating up front. I've called it the fog of camp before. Just because one guy is winning doesn't mean that he's winning on merits. It might be because the other guy isn't so hot at what he does. I picked up, I think, on a little thing that Mike Norville indicated, this is

nothing new, Ira, that the defense wins early in camps. It's more typical than not that defense will

set the pace. But Mike Norvell mentioned something in passing on Saturday afternoon when he said

that they did get through a few periods of offensive work

in which the defense was in base and they didn't do any no tricks no no bells and whistles

no stunts no angles I mean Tony white and that defense was made famous when he was at Nebraska

when he was at Syracuse and the roots of where it comes from,

and that you don't really know what's coming at you from what direction. And it's about

confusing you as much as it is overpowering you. And it sounds like Tony White really wants to get

back to that a little bit more this season. He was hinting at perhaps last year, maybe it's because

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