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This is Fresh Air, I'm Terry Gross. It's difficult to keep up with all the latest developments

in the investigation by the House Committee examining the January 6th attack on the Capitol

and the attempts by Trump and his allies to overturn the results of the election.

Here to help us is my guest, Luke Broadwater, who has been covering the committee for the

New York Times where he's a congressional correspondent. Some of the aspects of the investigation

we'll talk about include the plans in swing states to submit false slates of electors

and Trump's role in proposals to seize voting machines to search for evidence of fraud

that could overturn the results of the election. Broadwater co-wrote an article about how the committee

is using aggressive tactics typically used against mobsters and terrorists as it seeks to break

through stonewalling from Trump and his allies and develop evidence that could prompt a criminal

case against the former president. We recorded our interview yesterday. Luke Broadwater,

welcome to Fresh Air. Let's start with that this week the Republican National Committee voted to

censure this cheney and Adam Kinzinger for being on the 16th committee. The censure called the

committee's work the persecution of ordinary citizens engaged in legitimate political discourse.

Mitch McConnell, the Senate Majority Leader denounced that decision and the language.

What does the say to you about Republicans in Congress and their divisions and the divisions

within the RNC? If Republicans were hoping to keep January 6th in the rear view mirror

moving into the upcoming election cycle they certainly haven't done it. It does seem as much as

Mitch McConnell and what I would call sort of the traditionalist wing of the party wants to move on

wants to quickly condemn January 6th and then focus on the failings in their view of the Biden

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