The mission of somebody who is in captivity, whether it's a soldier or a civilian, is to find a way to maintain control.

And one of those ways to maintain control is a sense of orientation, to understand your whereabouts where you are what time

day it is and so many of them have found ingenious ways to to keep track of time and

one of them was a teenager, a teenage boy who was given three dates

a day and he saved the pits every day.

He put aside three pits and he kept track of the days according to

the pits. It's 7 PM on Thursday, May 30th in New York City. It's 2 o'clock a.m. on Friday, May 31st in Israel as Israelis wind down their week.

It's an understatement to say that the experience of being a hostage is impossible for anyone to imagine. It's unfathomable, except for the very small

number of people who have tragically experienced it themselves. At the same time, Israelis are wrestling with making a collective

decision about the cost they are willing to pay as a society to get their fellow citizens

home. Or the corollary, Israelis are wrestling with a collective decision about the cost to Israeli society of their fellow citizens not returning home.

One perspective we have not heard yet is a professional that has actually debriefed every single living hostage from Gaza that has returned,

including children, women, and the elderly.

Those who were in underground tunnels and those who were in apartments above ground

being held by Gazan families, those who were held captive alone and

those who were held captive with other Israelis, those who were medically

treated in captivity, and those who were tortured.

Glenn Cohn is that person, and during the current war,

Glenn served for over a hundred days as the first psychologist to debrief

hostages upon their return. Glenn made Aliya to Israel from the United States as a

young man. He's the product of a Jewish day school education here

in New York and he joined the IDF. He had an impressive and improbable career in

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