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Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

What We Got Wrong in 2019

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

New York Times Opinion

New York Times, Journalism, News, Society & Culture, Ross Douthat

4.07.2K Ratings

🗓️ 26 December 2019

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

In the last "Argument" of the year, the columnists gather 'round for a little holiday self-flagellation. After a look back on their biggest pundit mistakes of 2019, we hear from listeners about their political New Years' resolutions, and share some of our own. Then Michelle convinces Ross to give Damon Lindelof a second chance after all those hours he wasted trying to figure out "Lost." For background reading on this episode, visit nytimes.com/theargument.

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0:00.0

I'm Michelle Goldberg.

0:02.0

I'm Ross Douthit.

0:03.0

I'm David Lee and Hart.

0:04.0

And this is the argument.

0:07.0

This week, Michelle Ross and I look back on 2019 and on what we got wrong.

0:13.0

You know, you had this new class of Democrats being sworn in.

0:17.0

It was young, multi-racial, a lot of women.

0:20.0

Can you just look at what's happened?

0:23.0

Then, we're taking your calls about New Year's resolutions, the political card.

0:29.0

I'm a bit of a Michelle, but I think I need to get to know more Ross.

0:34.0

And finally, a recommendation.

0:36.0

There's all of these different pieces, and ultimately, it comes together with this puzzle box, clarity, and it's just incredibly satisfying.

0:53.0

The New Year is fast approaching, and we're going to take a moment now to reflect on 2019.

0:58.0

In recent years, a modest journalistic tradition has sprung up.

1:02.0

Some columnists, including you, Ross, write year-end pieces looking back on what they got wrong and what they've learned from it.

1:10.0

It's known as pundit accountability, and we're going to subject ourselves to it today.

1:15.0

Are you ready for some self-flagulation, Michelle and Ross?

1:18.0

Let's go.

1:19.0

I mean, always.

1:20.0

Okay, I'll go first.

1:25.0

In January, I wrote a column called Run Joe Run, in which I urged Joe Biden to enter the presidential campaign, which he did.

1:33.0

I'm not saying he did it because of me, obviously.

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