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What was it like for women working in Hoover’s FBI?

Curious City

WBEZ Chicago

Investigation, Chicago, Radio, Arts, Society & Culture, Public, Education, Curious, City

4.6661 Ratings

🗓️ 19 February 2026

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

For decades, the FBI was a man’s world. Anybody else was just living in it, especially the administrative staff. In the last episode, we learned how the bureau recruited high school girls for clerical work during the 1940s. But for decades women were explicitly prohibited from becoming special agents. Western Springs resident Jane McCarty was hired out of high school in the late 1960s to work as a stenographer for the FBI. She held several positions during her more than four decades at the organization. Today, the former president of the Society of FBI Alumni talks about the ebbs and flows of women’s access to leadership and autonomy within the bureau. She endured a sexist work environment but later witnessed the first women become FBI special agents.

Transcript

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0:00.0

What's up Chicago?

0:04.3

I'm Erin Allen, and this is Curious City.

0:07.8

When you think of an FBI agent, odds are, is the very serious-looking folks in a crime drama,

0:14.9

showing up to a murder scene in a suit, kind of like this guy from a TV show that reenacts crime cases, the FBI files.

0:23.3

It was, as the saying goes, round up the usual suspects, and that's exactly who we started to look at.

0:31.0

Usually, it's a man, but these days, it could really be anybody capable of doing a job.

0:40.4

That clip is from the Dick Wolf TNT series

0:43.7

that's simply called FBI.

0:46.5

For decades, the FBI was a man's world

0:49.2

and anybody else was just living in it,

0:51.9

including the administrative staff.

0:56.1

Last episode, we learned how the Bureau used to recruit high school girls as secretaries and stenographers,

1:03.4

which is still just unbelievable.

1:08.7

Today, we're going to talk about what it was like as a young woman working for the FBI

1:13.4

and the ebbs and flows of their access to leadership and autonomy within the Bureau.

1:20.3

My name is Jane McCarty.

1:22.6

I live in Western Springs.

1:24.6

Jane ended up in the Chicago area, but she says initially she was recruited by the FBI in California in 1968 during one of her high school business classes.

1:34.3

At least five girls from my high school went to work for the FBI.

1:38.3

You had to sign a paper and say, I'll work for a year, and some of us stayed for 44, and some left after a year.

1:45.6

Jane was the type to stay for 44. She and other girls she was recruited with were hired as

1:51.5

stenographers and typists. And young women working for the bureau gleaned a certain level of freedom.

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