To get the media to tell the truth,

you've got to talk about both sides of this issue.

There is no such thing as a one-sided issue like this.

You cannot say that the science has settled,

if you cannot prove the science has settled.

And that's what was at the heart of,

I think, one of the greatest media moments we've seen yet

when it comes to the vaccine discussion.

One of the world's greatest liberals, I used to be one.

I grew up a progressive liberal from Boulder, Colorado.

One of my favorite spokespeople that's out there

and asked the type of questions I do is Bill Mar.

That's why he felt like a brother to me this week.

When he finally asked the questions,

everybody should be asking,

here's just a taste of what happened on Bill Mar show.

Now, did author and pediatrician

who gives vaccines to children, to adults, and to himself?

But it was been called an anti-vaxxer.

Here to explain how that could be possible, Dr. J. Gourd.

Thank you for coming on.

It's a courageous these days just to speak at all

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