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Angry Planet

What 'War by Other Means' Means Now

Angry Planet

Matthew Gault

War, Politics, Conflict, Government, History, News

4.3882 Ratings

🗓️ 15 October 2018

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Taylor Swift and Islamic State are in a battle for our hearts, minds and eyeballs. Russia wants your vote, or for you not to vote at all. And if you think the amount of false information out there online is dangerous now, just wait. Artificial intelligence is about to make fake news virtually indistinguishable from the real thing.


Peter W. Singer, author of the new book "LikeWar: The Weaponization of Social Media," takes us beyond the troll farms and into some even creepier territory.

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You would speak to anyone in the military and they would say, you know, all the tactical victories we achieve on the battlefield won't matter if we don't get the messaging

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campaign right and very soon in the discussion I realized they don't get it. You're listening to War College, a weekly podcast that brings you the stories from behind the

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front lines.

0:48.5

Here are your hosts, Matthew Galt and Jason Fields.

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Hello and welcome to War College. I'm Matthew Gault.

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And I'm Jason Field.

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Social media has changed everything, including war.

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Groups such as the Islamic State and white nationalists now have access to an unprecedented propaganda machine.

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Terrorists live stream their attacks and use Twitter to hunt down victims.

1:18.7

Disinformation is stickier and more viral than ever.

1:22.0

Every day and every way, the future looks less like the Jets and more like

1:25.0

like Black Mirror.

1:27.0

Peter Singer is here to talk about that with us.

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He's a military strategist at the New American think tank and a consultant at the Pentagon.

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He's also the co-author of the new book Like War, the weaponization of social media, which you can pick up at

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like war book.com. Peter, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you for having me. So my first

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question is, what did the Islamic State learn from Taylor Swift? It's one of the strange juxtapositions that you get in this space.

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