What Trump wants with Iran
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4.7 • 911 Ratings
🗓️ 13 March 2026
⏱️ 46 minutes
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Summary
Nuclear negotiations with Iran seemed to be heading in the right direction – and then the U.S. and Israel decided it was time to strike. David Frum, staff writer for The Atlantic, joins host Krys Boyd to discuss President Trump’s approach to dealmaking and how that influenced his decision to use military force. Plus, we’ll discuss what the end goal might be, what happens if the administration doesn’t achieve that on its timeline and what the president’s tolerance for risk might mean for the future of this conflict. His article is “The Paradox of Trump’s Iran Attack.”
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| 0:00.0 | There's nothing like an emergency to justify ignoring regulations. |
| 0:14.0 | For example, in the event of a mechanical failure where they couldn't reach an airport, |
| 0:18.5 | though, a pilot might be allowed to attempt an |
| 0:21.1 | emergency landing on a freeway. Seems like common sense, right? But what if the person who seeks |
| 0:26.3 | to ditch the rules is the person who caused the emergency in the first place? What if a president |
| 0:31.8 | looking to suspend certain limits on executive power because of a war started that war? |
| 0:37.9 | From KERA in Dallas, this is Think. |
| 0:40.9 | I'm Chris Boyd. |
| 0:42.3 | The Trump administration has given numerous explanations for why the U.S. joined Israel's |
| 0:47.3 | attacks on Iran, to preempt Iranian strikes on American targets, to shut down Iranian |
| 0:52.4 | nuclear weapons development, to defend |
| 0:54.6 | Iranian civilians against a regime that in recent weeks has killed thousands of its own people. |
| 1:00.0 | My guest has some concerns, though, about what he sees as the autocratic tendencies of President |
| 1:05.0 | Trump combined with the historic tendencies of the Supreme Court and Congress to acquiesce |
| 1:10.2 | to the will of the executive branch in times of war. David Frum is host of the Supreme Court and Congress to acquiesce to the will of the executive |
| 1:11.5 | branch in times of war. David Frum is host of the video podcast, The David From Show, and a staff |
| 1:18.0 | writer at The Atlantic, which published his essay, The Paradox of Trump's Iran Attack. David, |
| 1:23.7 | welcome back to think. Thank you so much. Regardless of differing opinions on whether the U.S. should be at war with Iran, |
| 1:31.3 | there is broad consensus that the regime of the former Ayatollah Ali Hamine was bad news. |
| 1:36.3 | Will you just start by reminding us what made him a danger to his own people, to his region, |
| 1:41.3 | and to the broader world? |
| 1:43.3 | The Iranian regime, the clerical,ocratic regime came to power in a revolution |
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