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I really feel like we have to start with the Middle East because, as you know, President Trump was on the cover of Time magazine.

It's being heralded in many quarters by this tremendous accomplishment.

On the other hand, you know, I was listening to Rick Stengel say someplace that most diplomats under promise

and over-deliver, and he felt that Donald Trump was over-promising, and the fear is he's going to

under-deliver, which I thought was a pretty succinct way of saying the proof, you know, the devil's in the

details, and the proof will be in the

pudding, if you will. So I'm just curious to hear your perspective on this big Mideast victory lap

that President Trump was taking earlier this week. It's extraordinary that in the aftermath of a war

that has rubbleized a geography,

killed at least 60,000 people inside of it,

and caused so much trauma in Israel,

that in the end, I guess the war, well, it was about Trump.

Right?

And if you look at the magazine covers and you read the pronouncements,

what was the war about?

It was a victory for Donald's.

And it's obscene.

I could show you a Life magazine from 1946,

incidentally, inside of that Life magazine,

that has the Palestinian on the cover,

and inside the centerfold shows Jerusalem,

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