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This is Fresh Air. I'm Dave Davies. As the second administration of Donald Trump

approaches, among those wondering what to expect are countless foreign leaders whose interests

could be mightily affected by his moves. Trump's foreign policy team has begun to take shape. He said he'll

nominate New York Congresswoman Elise

Stefanik to be U.S. ambassador. Florida representative Michael Waltz will be national security advisor,

and multiple news sources say Florida Senator Marco Rubio is the pick for Secretary of State.

While foreign leaders ponder those choices, they can also consider Trump's many

statements on the campaign trail, that he could end the war in Ukraine in one day, that he'll

impose 20% tariffs on imported goods with higher levies on products from China and Mexico, and that

he'll deport millions of undocumented immigrants from the United States.

He's also expressed admiration for authoritarian leaders such as Victor Orban of Hungary,

and he's threatened to abandon NATO allies unwilling to spend more on their own defense.

For some perspective on all this, we turn to Zanny Minton BedBedos, editor-in-chief of The Economist.

Menton-Bettos is a former economist for the International Monetary Fund who's been with the paper since 1994.

She's overseen the economist's international economic coverage from Washington, D.C., has reported extensively from Latin America and Europe, and is a regular commentator on television and radio.

We recorded our interview yesterday.

Well, Zani Minton Beto's welcome to fresh air.

Thanks so much for having me.

Well, we're getting a sense of what Trump's foreign policy team might look like.

Marco Rubio, at least Defonic, Michael Waltz. What can you tell from the team so far?

So I think you can tell a few things from his picks so far. The first, and I think this was really

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