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Today, Explained

What Trump really wants from colleges

Today, Explained

Vox

News, Daily News, Politics

4.310.3K Ratings

🗓️ 12 August 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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It’s not just about the money. This episode was produced by Gabrielle Berbey, edited by Amina Al-Sadi, fact-checked by Laura Bullard, engineered by Patrick Boyd and Andrea Kristinsdottir, and hosted by Noel King. Listen to Today, Explained ad-free by becoming a Vox Member: vox.com/members. Transcript at vox.com/today-explained-podcast. Harvard students rally in favor of affirmative action. Photo by Craig F. Walker/The Boston Globe via Getty Images Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Let me take you back to June of 2023.

0:04.3

Good morning. We're coming on the air because the Supreme Court has just released a major decision concerning one of the most defining cases brought before the justices this term.

0:12.8

The Supreme Court today struck down race-conscious admissions policies, often called affirmative action at Harvard and the University of North Carolina.

0:19.9

For too long, many universities have wrongly concluded that the touchstone of an individual's identity is not challenges bested,

0:26.6

skills built, or lessons learned, but the color of their skin.

0:30.6

Our constitutional history does not tolerate that choice.

0:34.6

When colleges and universities were told to stop factoring race into admissions, many of them

0:40.5

started asking applicants to instead describe obstacles that they'd overcome. The Trump administration

0:46.3

thinks this is a sneaky way of getting around the Supreme Court's ruling and says it's going to

0:50.5

require colleges to start submitting data, proving that they are not breaking

0:55.0

the rules. Coming up on today, Explain from Fox.

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