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From WBEZ Chicago, this is Nerdette. I'm Greta Johnson. We did it. We made it to another weekend and in peak summer, no less. Today on the show, we're going to talk about what to watch and what to eat. We have with us, Shilpa Uskovic. She's a food editor at Bonapete. Shilpa, welcome back.

Greta, it's so great to be back. Thanks for having me.

Thank you for coming.

We also have Shirley Lee, who covers the entertainment industry for the Atlantic.

Shirley, hello.

Hi, Greta.

So, Shirley, we're going to skip all the big strike news, which is significant, and just jump

right to some of your favorite TV shows that you think, like, especially have

summer vibes. But before we even get there, Shirley, are you a summer person? Or are you,

like me sort of counting down the days to sweater weather? Oh, no, I'm so sorry to say that I'm not

like you. I live on the West Coast and it's kind of like if I don't

take advantage of summer out here, then what am I doing out here? Right. No, I am kind of a summer

person. I didn't used to be. And then once I moved to L.A., I started doing outdoorsy activities.

The L.A. Kool-A. I've heard of that happening. Yeah. What happened to me?

That's really funny. Shilpa, what about you? How do you feel about like summer heat? Is it,

is it your favorite? Absolutely not. I'm with you 100%. I detest summer with all my heart.

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