Hey guys, this is Larkenswain, host of the new Faith Matters podcast called Sanctuary, Discovering the Temple.

I'm really excited to share this project with you. It's something that just means a lot to me.

This is going to be a place where we will be exploring all things temple. We will be having expansive and transparent and even challenging conversations

about the temple exploring everything from the rituals and the symbols, the history, just everything

that makes up the temple experience. So if this feels like it would be meaningful to you, I hope

you'll meet me over there and follow along, subscribe, join the conversation, and hopefully walk away feeling inspired and reignited on your own personal temple journey.

Hey everybody, this is Aubrey Chavez from Faith Matters.

Today we're asking, what do you do when someone you love tells you they're leaving the church?

What do you say? How do you stay grounded

and connected when the stakes feel high or you're caught off guard? We sat down with two long-time

friends of the podcast, authors and researchers Joseph Grenny and Jeff Strong to explore these high

stakes moments when somebody is ready to talk about their shifting faith. Drawing on research

from over 500 real-life faith transition conversations, Joseph and Jeff

uncover something both surprising and sobering, that statistically, it's devout parents

and church leaders who are most likely to miss the mark in these conversations.

They suggest that this isn't about a lack of love or sincerity, but a

consequence of a very natural response to fear. They call this a T-U-I, talking under the influence.

When the amygdala takes over, stress floods the system, and the thinking brain goes offline.

So what looks like a communication problem is actually a chemical one.

And even the most well-intentioned among us can say things that damage relationships for years.

But it doesn't have to be that way.

Jeff and Joseph show us how to recognize when we're under the influence,

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