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Welcome back to Gabbyn with Gibb. I'm your host, Gips and Johns, and today on the show, I really wanted to break down and better understand this interesting moment that we're in with Real Housewives as an overall franchise right now, because I feel like we all looked up one day recently and realized that a big change had happened. We went from having four franchises and a girls trip on at the

same time, a run that included a zeitgeist breakthrough moment for Salt Lake City in reality

von T's and Monica Garcia to a point now just a couple months later where there's just one real

housewise franchise on, Potomac, which is winding down a season that's gotten a lot of criticism and has failed to deliver in the same way that previous seasons of the show have. We have girls trips sort of in disarray. The future of that experiment is kind of up in the air. Nobody really knows how they're going to proceed. We have Jersey in about a month, followed by Dubai about a month later, both of which I'm

excited for, but neither of which feel like they will dominate our psyches or create the

same level of fervor that we felt a few months ago.

So to help understand this moment, what it means, why we shouldn't all freak out about

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