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What to make of the Putin-Xi 'journey of peace'

Amanpour

CNN

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4.11K Ratings

🗓️ 20 March 2023

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Russian President Vladimir Putin and Chinese leader Xi Jinping came together in Moscow today in what Beijing is casting as a “journey of peace.” But with Putin intent on crushing Ukraine’s democracy and Xi hoping for a new world being made more in Beijing’s image, is it more like the rise of the authoritarians? Vladimir Milov is Russia’s former deputy minister of energy, and he joins the show alongside former Pentagon official Michael Beckley.  Also on today's show: Ghaith Abdul-Ahad, Author, “A Stranger in Your Own City”; Melvyn Leffler, Author, “Confronting Saddam Hussein: George W. Bush and the Invasion of Iraq”  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome to Amunfor. Here's what's coming up.

0:07.0

These are open stages of what will be a abroad and concerted campaign.

0:13.0

20 years since the invasion that changed America's place in the world,

0:18.0

we look at the domino effects of the war in Iraq felt to this day.

0:22.0

First, Mr. Gee goes to Moscow. The Chinese president

0:26.4

embraces Putin, chipping away at democracy and America's unchallenged global status.

0:31.7

Then, a stranger in your own city the true cost of the

0:35.8

Iraq war with journalists and author Gait Abdullah had on the human price. Plus there were good reasons for American policy makers to be extremely

0:48.4

distrustful and suspicious of him. Confronting Saddam Hussein, why the US chose war and what it's learned 20 years later.

0:58.2

Historian Melvin Leffler joins Walter Isakson. Welcome to the program everyone. I'm Christina Manpur in London.

1:22.8

Tonight, as the war in Ukraine throws the spotlight

1:25.8

on democracy and accountability,

1:27.8

we'll look back to look forward

1:29.9

because it's 20 years since the US-led invasion of Iraq and the reverberations are still being felt today.

1:36.4

President George W Bush once said the road to democracy in that region would lead through

1:40.8

Baghdad and be a watershed event in the global Democratic

1:44.8

revolution. Well it didn't quite the contrary in fact here he is back in 2002.

1:52.0

The days of Iraq acting as an outlaw state are coming to an end.

1:58.0

The United States is committed to helping make the world more peaceful and more just.

2:06.2

Instead, the war upended the Middle East, plunged Iraq into chaos,

2:10.0

killed hundreds of thousands there,

2:11.6

and led directly to the rise of ISIS.

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