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What to Make of Susie Wiles Interview?

Amanpour

CNN

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4.11K Ratings

🗓️ 17 December 2025

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

"An alcoholic's personality," "a right-wing absolute zealot," and "a conspiracy theorist" are some of the descriptions of President Trump and top members of his team by his Chief of Staff Susie Wiles in a new Vanity Fair interview. She claims her words were taken out of context and key administration figures are standing by her. But are fractures starting to appear in the Trump coalition? David A. Graham, staff writer for The Atlantic and author of "The Project: How Project 2025 is Reshaping America," joins the show to discuss.  Also on today's show: Brian Winter, Editor-in-Chief, Americas Quarterly; Steve Huffman, CEO and Co-founder, Reddit    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome to Amunpur. Here's what's coming up.

0:07.0

I haven't looked at the article I of course have heard about it.

0:11.0

A bombshell interview, poor polls, and economic trouble on the horizon.

0:16.0

Is this the end of Trump's winning streak?

0:19.0

I asked the Atlantic's David Graham about cracks in the MAGA coalition.

0:23.6

Then...

0:24.6

We're going to start hitting them on land, which is a lot easier to do, frankly.

0:29.6

Trump shows no sign of stopping the strikes.

0:32.6

While his campaign against Maduro seems to have more and more of the region rooting for him.

0:38.3

I speak to America's Quarterly's Editor-in-Chief, Brian Winter, about Latin America's

0:43.3

revolution of the right.

0:45.3

Also ahead.

0:46.3

We actually predate social media, both the words social media and the platforms themselves.

0:52.3

As Reddit takes Australia to court, its CEO and co-founder Steve Huffman tells Walter

0:58.0

Isaacson why he believes his platforms should be spared from the program, everyone.

1:21.4

I'm Biona Goldriga, New York, sitting in for Christian Amonpour today.

1:25.8

We want to begin by talking about the bombshell from the Vanity Fair's latest article, an alcoholic's personality, a right-wing absolute zealot, and a conspiracy theorist. Of course, I'm talking about just some of the scorching descriptions, President Trump, and top members of his team, not from an enemy,

1:44.2

but from one of their own, that is Chief of Staff, Susie Wiles.

1:48.2

She claimed her words were taken out of context by Vanity Fair,

1:52.0

and key administration figures appear to be trying their best

1:55.4

to prove that they aren't rattled.

1:58.5

Sometimes I am a conspiracy theorist,

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