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Hello and welcome to Mom and Dad are Fighting, Slate's Parenting podcast for July 7, 2016, the What to Expect when you're unexpectedly the First Lady Edition.

I'm Dan Coitz. I'm an editor at Slate. I'm the dad of Lyra, who's 11, and Harper, who is 8. And I'm Alison Benedict, also an editor at Slate, and the mom of Harry, who is 7, Sam 5, and Wally 3. Hello. Hello, I can't wait to hear your interview with Michelle Obama. I know. It's going to be really amazing. On today's show, we will talk to Dr. Catherine Steiner Adair. She's the clinical psychologist and the author of The Big Disconnect about body image and tween girls. Then a few months ago, Eliza Reed was a writer and editor in Iceland with a mild-mannered professor

husband and four kids and then her husband decided to run for president and then he won.

So I talked to Iceland's new first lady elect about her family's wild ride.

Plus, Triumphson Fails, a listener question about pro bono work that you don't agree with as a mom and more.

But first, Allison, take it away.

Please like our Facebook page, Facebook.com slash mom and dad are fighting.

Last I checked, like two hours ago, we had 4,825 likes.

We'd like to get to 5,000 by the end of the summer, right?

Dan, that seems like a doable goal. That seems so doable. Yeah. So here is the way to do it. Next time you are on Facebook and pressing the like button in reaction to a picture of a friend or a coworker or a relative's kid, which you do like so many times a day. I know you do. Don't pretend like you're not on your phone right now.

Quickly search for our page and like ours right then and there. So it's not like hanging over you. This task that you haven't done ruining your summer because you don't want to ruin it feeling so guilty about not having liked our page yet. So what a way to ruin your summer that would be.

That would be a real shame.

Yeah, I would feel bad about that.

Get it off of your to-do list.

Cross it off.

Get it done.

Like our page. Very good. Okay. Let's move on to Triumphs and Fales. I have a qualified triumph today. It's a situation that I felt like I navigated it pretty well, but then it was weird and thorny enough that we are, in fact, devoting a whole segment to it on the show today.

But so here is the triumph such as it is.

We all went to the mall the other weekend, Tyson's Corner, beautiful Tyson's Corner Mall.

And after we shop together and Harper pierced Harper's ears and we ate lunch and all the stuff we were doing, we then had two tasks, which still needed to get accomplished and we need to split them up one parent doing one and one doing the other.

So Harper wanted to get like a cute short haircut and Lyra needed to buy a new swimsuit.

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