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We Can Do Hard Things

What to Do With Rage: Meggan Watterson

We Can Do Hard Things

Treat Media and Glennon Doyle

Relationships, Education, Self-improvement, Society & Culture

4.842.7K Ratings

🗓️ 10 March 2026

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Meggan Watterson joins Glennon and Abby for an urgent, unfiltered conversation about how to stay human in infuriating times. They discuss sacred rage as a form of love, why trusting our inner knowing matters more than ever, and what it means to stop waiting for institutions—or men—to tell us we’re worthy. They also unpack the moment we’re in—from the Epstein files and Deepak Chopra’s presence in them to the misogyny behind the U.S. Men’s Hockey Team’s comments about the women’s team—and ask what women do when the systems meant to protect people fail. Plus: Meggan shares the historical acts of resistance inspiring her right now, the story of Mary Magdalene and believing women (and ourselves), and the question guiding her days: How do women pray when the world is on fire? For more We Can Do Hard Things with Meggan Watterson, check out:  Women’s Voices So Dangerous They Buried Them About Meggan: Meggan Watterson is the author of The Girl Who Baptized Herself and the Wall Street Journal bestselling Mary Magdalene Revealed. She is a feminist theologian with a Master of Theological Studies from Harvard Divinity School and a Master of Divinity from Union Theological Seminary at Columbia University. She leads a global online spiritual community, The House of Mary Magdalene, to study the scripture left out of the Christian canon like The Gospel of Mary and The Acts of Paul and Thecla.  Follow We Can Do Hard Things on:  Instagram — ⁠https://www.instagram.com/wecandohardthings⁠ TikTok — ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@wecandohardthingsshow⁠

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0:00.0

Yes. Hello, hello. Hello, hello. Well, Pod Squad, we have back the Megan

0:16.8

Waterson, who I just emailed last week on a particularly, actually, they've all been

0:21.8

particularly infuriating days, so who knows which one it was, and said, please God, just come

0:28.6

onto the pod, sit with us. I think I asked you to go feral with us because you had used that

0:36.8

word.

0:42.7

I was telling Abby that all I know to do right now and what I want to do is just gather the people that I have long trusted who feel like they've been preparing us for a long time

0:50.4

for a moment like this and just sit with them unprepared and unguarded and just ask them,

0:59.0

how are you? How are you doing? What are you doing? What are you thinking about? How are you

1:04.6

getting through? And you're the first person that I knew we had to talk to. And before we get

1:09.5

started, I do want to say that we were

1:12.1

privately listening to the sound check you just did. And Pod Squad, I need you to know this. So our

1:16.9

incredible producers, Allison and Marissa and Jen, they get on with the guest and they say, okay,

1:22.5

tell us what you had for breakfast. And the point is just to listen to the noise that comes out of

1:27.2

their mouth.

1:28.3

And most people just say bacon, one, two, three, four.

1:34.3

So five minutes ago, Marissa said, so Megan, just tell us what you had for breakfast and she said,

1:40.3

well, I was making my son an egg.

1:43.3

Scrambled eggs. Scramble eggs.

1:45.0

And I kept thinking of eggs and Mary Magdalene and how she pointed to an egg.

1:50.4

And I think what she meant by that pointing was that it is all within us.

1:55.9

And that is what I think is important is that it is all within us. That was Megan's sound check.

2:03.4

Okay? Yeah. I'm ready for this conversation for sure. Megan, how are you? What are you thinking

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