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The New Yorker Radio Hour

What to Do with a Confederate Monument?

The New Yorker Radio Hour

WNYC Studios and The New Yorker

Books, Society & Culture, Remnick, Storytelling, Wnyc, News, David, Yorker, Arts, Politics, New

4.26.2K Ratings

🗓️ 11 September 2020

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Across the South and well beyond, cities and states have been removing their Confederate monuments, recognizing their power as symbols of America’s foundational racism. In the town of Easton, Maryland, in front of the picturesque courthouse, there’s a statue known as the Talbot Boys. It depicts a young soldier holding a Confederate battle flag, and it honors the men who crossed over to fight for secession. It’s the last such monument in Maryland, outside of a battlefield or a graveyard. Casey Cep grew up nearby, and she’s watched as the town has awakened to the significance of the statue. Five years ago, when a resolution to remove it came before the county council, the vote was 5–0 opposing removal. But, during a summer of reckoning with police violence and structural racism, the statue came up for a vote again. Is time finally catching up with the Talbot Boys?

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0:00.0

This is The New Yorker Radio Hour, a co-production of WNYC Studios and The New Yorker.

0:09.5

Welcome to The New Yorker Radio Hour. I'm David Remnick.

0:12.9

During the Trump administration, the culture war, as we know it, has gone from a war of words to an openly violent clash, with attacks taking place at protests in Portland,

0:23.3

New York, and many other places. It seemed to start in Charlottesville three years ago,

0:28.6

where a woman was murdered in a car attack by a right-wing protester. That Charlottesville rally,

0:34.6

attended by neo-Nazis as well as pro-Confederates, was held in support of a statue of General Robert E. Lee.

0:41.5

So a war that ended 150 years ago, remembered by monuments that went up 100 years ago, is now a flashpoint in a bitter partisan divide.

0:51.8

Our staff writer Casey Sepp grew up in the shadow of one of those Confederate monuments,

0:56.8

and she has this story about its fate. Here's Casey Sepp.

1:03.4

I grew up in a tiny town in Talbot County on the eastern shore of Maryland. It was like a lot of

1:09.6

the towns around here, little farming, little fishing communities,

1:12.6

places that have a post office and a few churches and not really much else.

1:17.6

So for me growing up, the big city was actually Easton, the county seat.

1:21.6

There's a movie theater, grocery stores, a bookstore, there was even a pet shop.

1:26.6

I really like to go and see the parrot there.

1:29.9

Easton, if you were to look at it, is really a picture postcard of a colonial town. It's got

1:34.5

brick sidewalks, old-timey street lamps. And right in the center of town is a courthouse.

1:40.7

If you came up Dover Street or you walk down Washington Street, you'd arrive right at the courthouse.

1:45.9

And you'd be standing on this little patch of green grass, looking at this cozy sort of red brick building that has a clock tower,

1:52.8

beautiful cupola on top that chimes the time.

1:56.2

And if you look to your left, you would see a statue of a boy holding a flag.

2:01.7

So we're looking at a statue of a young boy.

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