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Probably my worst job ever was counting lasagna noodles, like literally counting them and putting them in a box. So talk about my numbing.

I worked for a nonprofit that was losing money and as a result the boss turned into a maniac.

I had a male coworker tell me that because he was a man, he was in charge of me.

I had a job where I had to cold call people and sell digital ads and I was at that job for four months and I only sold one.

Oh well, some jobs can be really challenging and the boss might be demanding you might not have the training you need co-workers, aren't cooperating or maybe you're dealing with something much worse, a toxic work environment and it's driving you crazy.

We're going to explore this topic further today on focus on the family and your host is focus president and author Jim Daly. I'm John Fuller.

John the truth is no job is perfect. Guess why? No people are perfect.

Exactly. And we have to remember that. I think generally though finding a place with low toxicity, both in the secular space as well as the Christian space, a church very similar is kind of a goal I've always had.

Is this a place where I can work and flourish and do the things God's called me to do. Thankfully at focus I've always felt that way. They say find something you like to do and you'll never work a day in your life.

I love that adage but unfortunately like anything you have to mix with other people and sometimes people bring a lot of baggage into the workplace.

Sometimes that person can be your boss and it becomes very difficult and we're going to talk about this today with two great experts.

Yeah, we have Dr. Gary Chapman and Dr. Paul White with us. Dr. Chapman is a good friend. He's been here a number of times of course an author, a speaker, a counselor best known for his series of books called the five love languages.

Dr. Paul White is a psychologist author and speaker and together he and Dr. Chapman wrote a book that will kind of form the foundation of our conversation today. It's called rising above a toxic workplace taking care of yourself in an unhealthy environment.

And we've got details about our guests and the book in the show notes or give us a call 800 a family. Dr. Chapman, Dr. White, welcome to focus on the family. Thank you.

Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. No, it's so good and you guys worked hard for those degrees. Thank you very much for doing that and you put your you know your learnings and your experiences into a great book here rising above a toxic workplace.

Let's start with the definition of what that means. Define that toxic environment. Yeah, I think it's especially important because toxic is used so much today.

And I think probably overused in when you think about toxic environments, I think that the easiest way to understand a toxic workplace is the thing about a toxic physical environment.

It's unhealthy, it has poison and it's going to damage you and maybe eventually kill you if you don't take care of yourself and protect yourself and get out.

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