What to do now clean energy subsidies are going? Analysis and insights from clean energy’s biggest North American event
Interchange Recharged
Wood Mackenzie
4.8 • 535 Ratings
🗓️ 23 September 2025
⏱️ 31 minutes
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Summary
As RE+ 2025 wrapped up in Las Vegas, the mood across the show floor was one of contradiction: anxiety, anger, optimism, and opportunity all rolled into one. In this episode, Sylvia Leyva Martinez – Research Director and analyst covering global solar markets - sits down with Chris Seiple, Vice Chair of Power & Renewables, and Kasim Khan, Senior Analyst at Wood Mackenzie, to unpack the forces shaping today’s energy market. From the shockwaves of OB3 and FEOC restrictions, to investors navigating the whiplash of shifting subsidy regimes, Sylvia, Chris and Kassim talk about the conversations they’ve had with developers and manufacturers. Everyone is facing the same dilemma: double down on building compliant supply chains or hold back in anticipation of yet another policy reversal? Meanwhile, the collapse of early-stage development activity and the race to prove FEOC compliance are reshaping priorities across the industry.
But there’s more than just uncertainty, there’s also innovation. Utilities are experimenting with new ways to fast-track data center interconnections, EPCs are doubling down on execution, and storage is emerging as the wildcard technology that could reshape both grid reliability and investor confidence. With US utilities already committed to 99 GW of new load from data centers - equivalent to nearly 15% of peak demand - the industry faces a defining test. Will the removal of subsidies finally level the playing field for capital, or will it strip away the last federal lever for climate policy? Tune in to hear why industry leaders believe we are living through the most uncertain moment in US clean energy history, and why that uncertainty could also create the biggest opportunities yet.
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| 0:00.0 | Wood McKenzie's Solar Energy and Storage Summit is back in Denver on the 29th and 30th of April, |
| 0:06.2 | 2026. It's co-located with the brand new North American Power and Renewables Forum, |
| 0:11.9 | which features senior speakers from across the U.S. power sector. Come and join over 450 senior |
| 0:18.2 | leaders from U.S. power developers, utilities, and independent power producers |
| 0:23.3 | to tackle the industry's biggest challenges. From navigating life after tax credits to capturing |
| 0:29.7 | the load growth boom, discover how the energy mix is evolving and how the U.S. is going to meet |
| 0:34.9 | that power demand. Seats are limited, so register now at woodmack.com. |
| 0:43.6 | I talked to a banker who's been raising capital for 40 years for power companies. |
| 0:48.5 | He said every time I tried to bring in a new investor into the energy sector, |
| 0:53.1 | 80% of the conversation is about subsidies and will those subsidies continue into the future |
| 0:59.8 | and how does that affect my investment? |
| 1:01.6 | And he's like, and I lose a bunch of investors. |
| 1:03.7 | If you look at the types of power quality that data centers need, behind the |
| 1:07.1 | media generation isn't going to be sufficient or reliable enough to actually provide what they want. |
| 1:12.2 | It's the only climate policy the U.S. has at the federal level, really. |
| 1:16.7 | Making renewable energy as cheap as possible was the approach to reduce emissions. |
| 1:21.7 | And that is the casualty. That's the casualty of the end of subsidies. |
| 1:26.6 | Hello, everyone. |
| 1:29.4 | Welcome back to the interchange recharge podcast. |
| 1:34.0 | Today we're recording in Las Vegas and actually we're almost wrapping up R-E-plus. |
| 1:39.5 | I'm thrilled to be joined by Chris Seipo, Vice Chair of Power on Renewables and Kasim Khan, |
| 1:41.0 | senior analyst at Wood McKenzie. |
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