What Therapists Fight About (chapter 1)

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Kirk Honda

Mental Health, Health & Fitness

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🗓️ 14 May 2025

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Dr Kirk Honda explores the 20 topics that therapists fight about.

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0:00.0	Hey, just urban listeners. Today, I want to talk with you about what therapists fight among
0:06.8	themselves about. I said that in a weird way, almost like a Yoda-ish way. I want to talk about
0:13.3	what therapists fight about. And the reason why I want to talk about it is that I recently on
0:20.1	the therapist's subreddit saw that someone had reposted
0:25.3	a Facebook meme titled How to Get a Bunch of Therapists Arguing Starter Pack. And on this
0:32.4	meme is just listed a bunch of topics that I very much agree are frequently fought about in today's world.
0:40.7	And it's an interesting glimpse into the field of psychotherapy today in 2025 or in the
0:48.2	2020s because I know as an older therapist that we didn't fight about these things 10, 15, 20 years ago, at least for the most part.
0:59.8	So let's just go line by line.
1:02.2	And I'm going to try to be as quick as possible with each one because there's like about 20 of them.
1:08.0	And there's so much to say about each one. And so let's see if I can manage to be
1:15.9	concise for once. But, you know, conciseness is the enemy of understanding sometimes.
1:25.7	But let's see how we do.
1:40.2	Okay, so I thought I would just start with the very first item and go in order just because I don't want to come across like I'm privileging one over the other. And so the first one here is polyvagal theory. And yes, absolutely. Therapists fight
1:47.5	very adamantly about polyvagal theory. And I'll tell you my own opinion on it. And when I first
1:57.6	started to hear the debate, I'll tell you, I don't really have a firm opinion
2:03.6	about this. I have some outsider observations of the debaters, but I first came across
2:11.2	polyvagal theory as it's described. I can't remember the name of the person who was promoting this idea, but I first started hearing about it in the 2000s, like 2002 or something, but it had already been talked about in smaller circles by that point.
2:31.3	I really started hearing more about it in around 2010, 2011. I remember
2:37.6	at the, when you're in a, when you're a professor at a university, you tend to just hear
2:43.8	these kind of conversations and students will talk about things and will ask about things.
2:50.0	There's just, in academia, there's just a lot of talk about whatever and they'll ask about things. There's just in academia,
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